{"id":38752,"date":"2020-11-16T17:19:52","date_gmt":"2020-11-16T16:19:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxury-hotel-expert.com\/?p=38752"},"modified":"2026-05-23T16:28:52","modified_gmt":"2026-05-23T16:28:52","slug":"fine-hotel-dining-of-the-future-towards-a-community-approach-interview-with-chef-thierry-marx","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/delporte-hospitality.com\/en\/fine-hotel-dining-of-the-future-towards-a-community-approach-interview-with-chef-thierry-marx\/","title":{"rendered":"Fine hotel dining of the future: Towards a community approach, interview with chef Thierry Marx"},"content":{"rendered":"

Thierry Marx, Chief Executive & Restaurant Director of the Mandarin Oriental, Paris, is also an involved member of his community. He actively works on shaping the future of restaurant dining, going between a return to the basics and innovation.<\/p>\n

As sponsor of the 2018 edition of EquipHotel, he serves as the ambassador to a necessary wakeup call in the hotel world, decodes the changes in the sector and provides the keys to reshaping and adapting to new modes of consumption.<\/p>\n

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\u201cThe hotelier and the restaurant professional must be engaged members of the community.\u201d<\/h2>\n

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What evolutions do you foresee in the hotels of the future<\/strong>?<\/strong><\/h2>\n

The hospitality sector took a big blow with Airbnb, whether we\u2019re talking about luxury, mid-range or low-cost hotels. Everyone has been affected by the new ways of sharing and consuming. Airbnb sent us a strong message: we have to understand and adapt our services.<\/p>\n

Is it still useful these days to provide a concierge service? Clients arrive with a concierge in their pocket. Would it not be more interesting to create a lifestyle manager role that could rethink the concierge profession and offer events or experiences on site rather than sell services outside the hotel?<\/p>\n

By projecting forward, we can anticipate the transformations to come. We have to learn to rely on young people, who have already integrated these new consumption styles, and understand the ways in which they foresee the hotels of the future.<\/p>\n

Hotels are going toward the direction of personalization. Clients want to live out an experience. Yet the experience in our sector is extremely ephemeral. The core challenge of our profession thus consists of rendering the experience memorable. And this will only occur through experiences that have a social and environmental impact social.<\/p>\n

Today, it\u2019s not cutting-edge technology that clients are necessarily after, with all the iPads and flat screens: he already has better things at home. The most important thing, in fact, is the quality of the human contact.<\/p>\n

The entire profession depends on this. Without this, there cannot be a successful client experience. The challenge thus lies in training and information.<\/p>\n

A new approach to training: speed and efficiency.<\/p>\n

Hotel schools as they were created in the 20th<\/sup> century no longer deliver relevant solutions. Today, students learn more quickly and have grown up among a digital culture. \u00a0They thus need quicker and more efficient training systems. It\u2019s important to give them the possibility to grow more quickly so that they can flourish more rapidly in their careers.<\/p>\n

We have to catch the training programs up to speed with the current situation. \u00a0The longer we prolong the length of a program, the less we arrive at the solution. Today, business schools have created masters in hospitality: students undergo scarcely a 1-year training and end up general managers over students who have come out of hotel schools. The hotel and dining professions are transforming: it is important to try and understand the changes and adapt to them.<\/p>\n

This is the very work we\u2019re addressing these days with \u201cCuisine Mode d\u2019Emploi\u201d\u2009and \u201cBoulangerie Mode d\u2019Emploi\u201d, so that we can train the people in these professions in 12 weeks.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s an approach that has become necessary due to the strong turnover and the gradual loss of manual labor.<\/p>\n

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How do you give meaning to your employees in order to motivate them?<\/strong><\/h2>\n

One word: \u201cplan\u201d. I ask only one question to my staff: \u201cWhere do you see yourself in 2 years?\u201d\u00a0The rest does not interest me. They help me reach my objectives, and I help them build their professional project. It\u2019s a relationship built on trust. With employees, the relationship goes beyond simply a salary. A salary is simply what we pay for a career solution, but we have to evolve it. Otherwise, it leads to frustrations.<\/p>\n

Hoteliers and restaurant professionals have a social responsibility.<\/p>\n

At the Mandarin Oriental and in my training schools, I have created a theater school in English so that employees of mine who have not had the chance to learn the language can start to do so.<\/p>\n

Hoteliers must understand that we are the ones who will create the ressource-m\u00e9tier.<\/p>\n

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It is high time for an environmental wakeup call. More and more chefs are growing their own farms. Is this the approach that you subscribe to, especially with your commitment to High Environmental Quality or HQE™ (Haute qualit\u00e9 environnementale)<\/strong>\u2009<\/strong>? <\/strong><\/p>\n

I have referenced 350 hectares of organic agriculture between Chartres and Orl\u00e9ans. I work with partners who have not just an environmental, but also a social impact.<\/p>\n

It is important to distinguish between community engagement and marketing tricks. Putting a garden on a roof of a hotel does not make a hotelier an engaged member of his community. 10 tomato plants on the roof is nothing in a grand production scheme. You have to make use of the garden by, for instance, making it a pedagogical garden.<\/p>\n

In today\u2019s world, the hotelier and the restaurant professional must be engaged members of the community. The social and environmental impacts play a part in the client experience.<\/p>\n\n\n

The Art Of welcoming by Thierry Marx <\/h2>\n\n\n\n

The art of welcoming in the Middle East and in Asia does not follow local customs, but instead prioritizes a highly international approach. What is your view on the French art of welcoming?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

In France, 90% of the products that I serve are French. And yet, when I look at the sales of international products, I come to realize that they represent only 0.02% of foreign clients.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The French always have this tendency to think that things are better elsewhere, but we have such a rich culture, such a deep history in France that foreigners end up copying us to take our products back to their home.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Often, I have Chinese clients who ask to come visit the kitchens of my pastry stores: they want to see the way my pastry chefs work. And that\u2019s what is interesting; that\u2019s what we have to put back in the spotlight and re-energize. That\u2019s what the French art of welcoming is about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

International clients want to discover a French expertise and live out an experience \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Many hoteliers and French restaurant professionals used to believe in the low cost<\/em> theory, but what really counts is the value behind the quality. As American financier Warren Buffett put it: money has no value in itself; it is a means of negotiation. Forget that, and you risk being tempted by the low cost <\/em>theory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

One organic egg costs 50 cents and the raw cost of an \u0153uf mayonnaise is \u20ac1.50. By selling it at \u20ac8 or \u20ac9, you earn money, you contribute to an agricultural and artisanal food chain,  and the client is happy. The client understands that the product comes from a local producer and that this justifies the price. If he wants to pay less, he can go to a low cost<\/em>restaurant. But he will end up coming back to our place because he can value the importance of pleasure, well-being, and health.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is the reason why I maintained an average price of \u20ac1000 during the crisis, even while many people warned me that I was digging myself into a hole. I remember how some colleagues, based in some very fine establishments that remained half-empty, tried to reduce the prices down to \u20ac350. In the end, this does nothing but lead to the downfall of the entire market.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Instead, we should be appreciating the value of the product. In France, we have lost sight of the quality factor, and the market reflects this. The Germans, on the other hand, have been able to preserve this, which is why they are faring better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The luxury industry, at any rate, has long understood the importance of the economy of quality. Luxury has a very faint presence in the digital market: this is because the human touch is so important in this universe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You are seeing more and more Asian, Russian, and American clients… How do you adapt to this increasingly international clientele?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Receiving an international clientele is not a problem. The important thing is not who the clients are, but who you are. You have to stay faithful to your signature. My cuisine is French. My aim is not to attract people at all price ranges, my aim is to help them discover my culture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I myself go out to discover local cuisine when I travel to Japan. I don\u2019t want the restaurant to adapt the local cuisine to my habits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the same way, a client who travels in France comes to discover French culture. A Chinese client would not want the restaurant to serve him Chinese food. What he wants is to discover the French style of service, the French expertise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We need to be shaping the French expertise, from breakfast to dinner, from the reception to the room service.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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